Football Regulator Exclusive: David Kogan on saving football from rogue owners and vested interests — Yorkshire Post 11/10/25
by Stuart Rayner
English football's first regulator, David Kogan, says his new powers are being accelerated to allow him to deal with the "absolutely critical topic" of Dejphon Chansiri’s mismanagement of Sheffield Wednesday.
That Kogan chose The Yorkshire Post for his first print
interview in the job perhaps highlights the importance he places on resolving
the mess at Hillsborough, an issue he says goes way beyond the boundaries of
the Championship club's home city.
And although he cannot take a public stance on the Thai
businessman before an investigation has taken place and will not put timescales
on the process, the newly-formed Independent Football Regulator (IFR) he was
only confirmed as chairman of on Monday is trying to speed it up as much as
possible.
"I am really aware Sheffield Wednesday isn't just a
problem in terms of Sheffield," said Kogan, whose appointment was endorsed
by a select committee in May despite concerns in some quarters about him being
a Labour party donor. "Sheffield Wednesday was a founder club of the
football in this country.
"Sheffield Wednesday is a club that is way too
important to be ignored because it's got this 158-year history."
Of the IFR's powers, measures to block and weed out
"rogue owners" are due to be first on the statute book, and it is no
secret Owls chairman/owner Chansiri will almost certainly be the first target
if still in situ by then.
Pressure from the Football League has so far not forced
Chansiri to sell the club, but Kogan will have the power to forcibly remove him
if he sees fit.
One of the regulator's jobs will be to "assess the
honesty, integrity and financial soundness" of would-be and current
owners. This is something the leagues currently do, but once signed off by
Parliament, Kogan’s powers will go much further, ranging from fines and public
censures to prison sentences in the most extreme cases.
Kogan has kept fully up to speed with the situation at
Hillsborough, where Chansiri has become unwilling and/or unable to provide the
financial backing which had been propping up the club since he bought it in
January 2015.
Wages of players and non-playing staff have not been paid in
full and on time for five of the last seven months, and debts to HMRC and other
clubs have not been settled on time either.
The result has been 10 Football League (EFL) transfer
embargoes – six still active – the decimation of the playing and coaching
staffs, 13 points won from the last 54 available, fan boycotts and protests,
and disciplinary charges against Chansiri and Wednesday, with the latter almost
certain to lead to a substantial points deduction.
Chansiri has long said he is willing to sell the club, but
none of the interested parties have yet been able to strike an agreement.
"We have been in direct contact with any number of
people involved in the Sheffield saga," stressed Kogan. "We've talked
to fans groups only this week, we have constant communication with the EFL, we
have constant communication with the political figures who are obviously very
involved in this from the city of Sheffield.
"So we are not sitting there ignoring this at all,
quite the contrary. I'm very really conscious of this and so are my colleagues.
"We only got Royal Assent at the end of July, we have
been moving heaven and earth to speed things up.
"It's about every club but clearly we're very aware of
Sheffield Wednesday being the absolutely critical topic that it currently is.
"We have been working with DCMS (the Department for
Culture, Media and Sport, which created the IFR) to try and get our powers and
our consultation processes up much earlier than they originally intended.
"At the end of August we put out our first consultation
about owners, directors and senior execs. That consultation came to an end on
Monday. We had 70-odd responses, which we need to go through.
"That's then going to flow into a process in Parliament
where they have to go through secondary legislation and that in turn will then
lead to our powers.
"So that's all happening, it's all in train.
"The train has left the station and it's going to go
through to its inevitable consequence which is that we will be empowered first
of all to look at clubs about which you may have a concern, secondly to
investigate them and thirdly to take action on them.
"We've got to see whether bills are being paid, how the
club is operating and then we're going to have to take a review.
"All you have to do is read the legislation – which of
course most people don't – to see that our powers are very clear.
"We ultimately have the power to do any number of
things including basically get an owner out of a club and put in some form of
replacement executive management, be it an administrator or whatever.
"We have the authority that the EFL doesn't have. It's
powers we don't particularly want to use but we will use if we have to."If
England's richest clubs had not tried to form a breakaway European Super
League, if the Premier League and Football League (EFL) had been able to agree
a financial settlement over the last six years, David Kogan would probably not
be sat in the National Football Museum as the sport's first regulator.
By Stuart Rayner
It is an onerous task, but he only needs look at the damage
being done to Sheffield Wednesday to feel glad it exists, and that he has been
landed with it.
Fighting baddies, like Owls' owner/chairman Dejphon
Chansiri, will be part of the chairman of the Independent Football Regulator’s
remit, but fighting alongside the good guys is what he is more interested in.
Wednesday, officially Kogan’s third day in the job, was
busy, travelling to Manchester first thing to address representatives of 110
clubs from the country's top five divisions, then various broadcasters and one
newspaper – The Yorkshire Post. More than once he apologises if tiredness has
dulled his answers but it has not – nor his enthusiasm.
“This job isn't straightforward and I'm old enough to be
able to have a happy retirement not doing it,” he says. “But I honestly believe
as a long-time football fan that football is really important in this country.
“When a club like Bury, like Sheffield Wednesday, when a
club like any of them are on the point of going under or go under, that has a
seismic impact on the place in which that club is based.
“I was reading a book by Arthur Hopcraft called The Football
Man the other day. He wrote it in 1968 and it's fascinating that a lot of the
issues he's raising then are still issues now. Football somehow survived but it
was a simpler easier time.
“It's getting more complicated so my motivation is trying to
help protect the pyramid, trying to protect clubs as they go about interacting
with their communities and also continuing this real success story.
“We're looking at owners – current owners and new owners;
next week we're putting out consultations on financial regulation, fan
engagement, corporate governance and licencing (the consultation on owners
ended on Monday).
“The financial regulation is all about looking at the risk,
assessing how clubs are run, how football's managed, how it's owned and how it
engages with its fans – which, by the way, would also have been a test in terms
of Sheffield Wednesday if we'd existed three or five years ago.
“If football had reached its own accommodation about risk,
financing and all the rest of it, it's possible the powers we have wouldn't
exist but that wouldn't necessarily have sorted a problem like a rogue owner.”
The Premier League lobbied hard to stop the post being
created, anxious to keep control of how they spend and share the unprecedented
amounts of money pouring into their coffers.
The Conservatives objected to Kogan personally, aware he is
a Labour donor in a role supposed to be completely independent of the
Government. FIFA forbids political interference in national associations.
Kogan thinks the first Premier League battle is won but
there will be many more in a job basically supposed to over-ride vested
interests to protect the wider game. One with Chansiri could be next assuming
he has not sold Sheffield Wednesday by the time – hopefully later this year –
Kogan gets legal powers to remove him.
Asked how much pushback he is expecting, he is blunt: “I'm
not.
“The Premier League were here, all 20 clubs were here
today,” he explains. “The Premier League exec, its chair, its board were
engaging with us. I've got a two-hour meeting with them on Monday morning.
“I think they have taken the totally sensible view that they
fought the battle and they lost the battle and now we're all in a different
battle, not of them versus us, but about how we exist, they exist, the EFL
exists, National League exists and all the rest of it.
“When we talk about the state of the game and these issues
come up I'm sure that there'll be quite an interesting debate but I don't get
the impression they're edging (towards a settlement) particularly at the
moment. Let's see how we can help them edge in the next few months.”
The Premier League argument has always been that football
can run itself, thank you very much.
In one sense, they are emphatically right. Theirs is not
just the most lucrative domestic football competition ever, but successful on
the field too. Their teams are regulars in the latter stages and winners'
podiums of all three European club competitions and England have reached the
last two European Championship finals.
But ask a fan of Sheffield Wednesday or Morecambe if the
system is working. Ask fans of clubs like Leeds United trapped on the
trampoline between the Championship and the top tier. Ask those like Hull City
and Middlesbrough beneath the second tier's glass ceiling, tens of millions of
pounds behind the parachute regiment and limited in how much they can pour in
to make up the gap even if their benefactors have it. Another level up,
Newcastle United and Aston Villa face similar problems.
Ask a York City fan as they fight over just one automatic
promotion place into a division arguably weaker than the top half of the one
they are in, or a fan of Yorkshire Amateurs, whose decision to mothball their
first team because it is unsustainable is described elsewhere on these pages.
It seems to this observer like a model serving the elite nicely, but not always
the wider game.
“Come back to me in a year's time when I've done the State
of the Game report and I'll answer your question,” Kogan responds.
“We're going to be doing an assessment of the state of the
116 clubs and leagues in this country. How risky is it? How secure is it?
What's the long-term financing?
“We're also going to be engaging with the EFL and the
Premier League about should there be a new financial settlement? Quite a lot of
the clubs who were here today, certainly from the lower leagues, regard it as
the most important thing.
“At the moment I officially don't have a view on any of that
but I will do once we've done the basic research on the report.
“We need lots of financial data, we need to analyse each of
the 116 clubs but also look at the issues that affect those clubs. Those issues
aren't always obvious. Then there's the (financial) distribution the Premier
League already does, things like parachute payments. All of that is this great
big bucket of stuff and we're going to sit back and just take a long hard view
of that. No doubt the EFL and Premier League will give us lots of information
and we'll engage.”
As a media rights executive, Kogan helped negotiate some of
the deals fuelling the Premier League's amazing success, and some of the EFL's
as they tried to keep up.
“I've worked at all ends of this over the last 30 years and
I've seen clubs with lots of money, I've seen clubs with very little money,” he
says.
“Owners trying to keep clubs going in the face of all the
economic pressures they've got have an incredibly difficult life and difficult
job and I think giving them support is an admirable thing to do in my old age.”
Then comes the philosophical question of how much of a
safety net sport should have – it is, after all, a competition.
Football needs bad owners, managers and players to have good
ones, losers to have winners. But what is the difference between a bad owner
and the rogue ones Kogan will actively try to keep out and throw out?
As he puts it: “We look back since 1992 (when the Premier
League broke away from the other 72 league clubs) at the number of clubs that
have gone to the wall and go, 'How many of them were bad owners? How many have
gone through sheer mismanagement?'
“I'm way more worried about good owners, owners who actually
are responsible and are paying their bills and all the rest of it but are
losing money.
“Bad owners under our regime are going to be very obvious
very quickly because we're going to have all power to investigate clubs just
through our licensing, to know when bills aren't being paid or whatever.
“Because every club now knows we're going to be going
through a licensing process and they're going to have to give us information
they have not really had to give before, the amber light will start flashing.
“The difference between a bad owner and unacceptable one is
when that amber light starts flashing and we get involved to try and resolve
the issues with them whether they are prepared to work with us or not.
“If there happens to be an owner who entirely ignores the
fact we're trying to engage with them and just carries on as they are – well,
that takes you into a different place.”
“Backstop” is a word commonly used about Kogan, English
football’s new last resort. He will soon have powers he would rather not use,
but ones he is unafraid to. The day cannot come soon enough.